Coin Bureau: Unemployment will rise to 4%

Said on Sep 4, 2023, at 16:43 in the video.

What was said
Coin Bureau

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“this means that in a few months time unemployment could be well above the first four percent Target”
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PredictionUnemploymentwill rise to 4%by Dec 3, 2023
What happenedafter 1 year
Correct

Reading when said

3.9%

Sep 4, 2023

Reading at close

4.1%

Sep 3, 2024

Change

+0.20 pp

The call was for unemployment to reach 4.0% between Sep 4, 2023 and Sep 3, 2024. Its high over that window was 4.3% (UNRATE, first releases), so the level was reached.

30 days

Incorrect

90 days

Incorrect

180 days

Incorrect

1 year

Correct

The window it was checked over

UnemploymentWindow checkedTarget namedRecession (NBER)
3%4%5%6%7%8%202020212022202320242025Target 4%Said on Sep 4, 2023
3%4%5%6%7%8%2020202220232025Target 4%Said on Sep 4, 2023

Unemployment rate: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics via FRED, figures as first published. The shaded span is the window the call was checked over; grey bands are recessions.

Result at every window

All windows are shown, so none is picked
Result at every window
WindowResultAt the startAt the endChangeBenchmark
30 daysR-MACRO-LEVEL v4Incorrect3.9%3.9%Oct 4, 20230.00 pp—
90 daysR-MACRO-LEVEL v4Incorrect3.9%3.7%Dec 3, 2023−0.20 pp—
180 daysR-MACRO-LEVEL v4Incorrect3.9%3.8%Mar 2, 2024−0.10 pp—
1 yearR-MACRO-LEVEL v4Correct3.9%4.1%Sep 3, 2024+0.20 pp—
3 yearsR-MACRO-LEVEL v4Correct3.9%4.2%Sep 3, 2026+0.30 pp—
5 yearsR-MACRO-LEVEL v4Pending——Sep 2, 2028——
Stated deadlineR-MACRO-LEVEL v4Incorrect3.9%3.7%Dec 3, 2023−0.20 pp—
Why: 30 days

The call was for unemployment to reach 4.0% between Sep 4, 2023 and Oct 4, 2023. Its high over that window was 3.9% (UNRATE, first releases), so the level was not reached.

Why: 90 days

The call was for unemployment to reach 4.0% between Sep 4, 2023 and Dec 3, 2023. Its high over that window was 3.9% (UNRATE, first releases), so the level was not reached.

Why: 180 days

The call was for unemployment to reach 4.0% between Sep 4, 2023 and Mar 2, 2024. Its high over that window was 3.9% (UNRATE, first releases), so the level was not reached.

Why: 1 year

The call was for unemployment to reach 4.0% between Sep 4, 2023 and Sep 3, 2024. Its high over that window was 4.3% (UNRATE, first releases), so the level was reached.

Why: 3 years

The call was for unemployment to reach 4.0% between Sep 4, 2023 and Sep 3, 2026. Its high over that window was 4.6% (UNRATE, first releases), so the level was reached.

Why: 5 years

Not yet resolved. The window closes Sep 2, 2028.

Why: Stated deadline

The call was for unemployment to reach 4.0% between Sep 4, 2023 and Dec 3, 2023. Its high over that window was 3.9% (UNRATE, first releases), so the level was not reached.

What was said around it

the Unlucky ones unemployment is starting to rise around the world including in the US last month the unemployment rate in the US hit its highest level in over a year and revisions suggest that fewer jobs were added than previously reported to be fair the U.S unemployment rate is still below 4 which is the fed target the caveat is that it's not the level of unemployment that matters it's the direction it's headed in and how fast it's going there as you can see unemployment seems to be rising fast when you average it out over the last few months this means that in a few months time unemployment could be well above the first four percent Target at that time investors will become the lucky ones because this rise in unemployment will put the FED under immense pressure to cut interest rates the caveat is that the FED may not fold at first if you watched our recent summary of the Central Banking Symposium at Jackson Hall you'll know the FED is explicitly looking for unemployment to rise that's because a rise in unemployment is required for core inflation to come down this means the FED could keep rates High even as unemployment Rises but if history is any indication the FED will only be able

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